Sunday, April 26, 2015
I think it's freddy who took flight. First from UK to St. Louis, and then (probably after getting his butt kicked) back to UK from St. Louis. I am at least well grounded; and have been involved in my peoples struggles since at least adolescence. And I will be with them in front of the police station next Wednesday. freddy won't.
Un agent provocateur noir? Yeah....Why doesn't that surprise me? Ironically, our movement may even have created job opportunities in the FBI for foolish or opportunistic blacks. I've not deeply researched this, but I've heard from some veterans of the 1960s that Hoover had to loosen his restrictions on Blacks entering the FBI simply because he needed agents to infiltrate our Movements and our communities. F____g traitors!
It seems that Bam, like freddy the fool, mainly replies to ideas he doesn't like with insults against the person who holds those ideas. You know, even in the WORST disputes between you and Attai there's usually some content having to do with ideas or issues that the quarrel is about. And heavens knows those encounters can get personally vicious. But what I soon notice about freddy, beginning in the thread "Bring Back the Black Panthers?", was that he increasingly replied to my arguments over ISSUES with a personal insult or quarrel. Now I am as good as offering insults as the next person. But I have too much respect for reason and for truth to substitute insult for argument, or to mistake name calling for debate. And you may have noticed that after awhile, if I see that a principled discussion or debate isn't possible with a given person, I begin responding to him or her less and less.. I'm contemptuous of people who are contemptuous of reason. And I've notice that all reactionary and authoritarian thinking and practices carry a deep strain of anti-intellectuali sm. People who substitute insult for argument, or offer insult AS argument, are enemies of freedom. Hannah Arendt notice this antirationalism as a persistent and central feature of totalitarianism. She noticed it among the Nazis in her native Germany, and Richard Wright noticed it among the Stalinists in Chicago. Our fundamentalists preachers---Christ ian fascists Chris Hedges calls them--are notorious for their anti-rational attitudes. When after I noticed that my efforts at rational debate or discussion were fruitless with freddy, I came to dismiss him as a charlatan and a fool. And I've come to suspect as you and Attai (one of your few agreements on anything) that maybe he is really a racist white Brit. I had started to simply regard him as a white racist negro---or Tom in popular AA vernacular. A black fool. Maybe he's a white racist fool afterall.
Freddy says that he hears whites complaining about police brutality. Duh, old news a____. There has always been police brutality against whites. Read about the history of the labor movement in America---or Europe, fool. No one is saying that racial oppression is the only thing happening. Anyone with the brains of a goose knows there class oppression and political oppression. Poor whites and progressive white activists sometimes find themselves on the wrong side of a cops billy club. The fact still remains that, as one study indicates, the PROPORTION of deadly use of police force happens 20 times more against Blacks than whites. Rarely does any systemmm of oppression target only one group. Even Hitler didn't kill ONLY Jews, but they were his MAIN target. Contemporary Europe oppresses other people besides Blacks or (indeed especially) North Africans. But only a stupid goose thinks that a Caucasian Frenchmen is as likely to face police violence as a Francophone Black or North African. (And I would not be surprised if terrorisme, a real problem, isn't used as an excuse by European racists and reactionaries to demonize and brutalize North Africans as a community the way "black crime" is used here to demonize an brutalize my people). We cannot deny class oppression, but cannot point to it as a way of evading the realities f racism, surtout STRUCTURAL racism. As Manning Marable put it once, America is not only a class society but a racist society---indeed a racist class society. And in Ameerica where, as Dr. King put, economic injustice and racial injustice are inseparably linked evil twins, we have no choice but to either surrender or to contest the ENTIRE ORDER of society. If freddy wants to be a___ kisser and apologist for the established order, so be it. But I've too much self-respect for that.
87% of whites are killed by whites, but the white community is not--NOT YET--subject to growing fascist police terror. And if you, like the typical white racist, think you can either justify or deflect from the issue of police terror and the looming danger of fascism, then you too are a part of problem
Maybe you should read Frantz Fanon's THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH so that you may at least get some insight into the forces making for fratricide in oppressed communities. Maybe you should study your history and ask "why did the crime rate in black Montgomery drop by 60% during the 1955 bus boycott?" Why did solidarity replace internecine violence wherever social struggles happen?
And maybe you should read the May 13, 2014 AlterNet.com article "White People Commit the Most Heinous Crimes, So Why Is America Terrified of Black Men?"
When you've done some homework then maybe we can have a fruitful discussion.
It is mainly white racists who claim that the problems of the Black community is of or own making. Of course, there are Black reactionaries who think likewise. What most Black people think--and quite correctly I believe---is that while most of the problems which we face are NOT of our own MAKING, they are still our burden of responsibility. We don't control the international drug traffic--certainly not CIA which brings much of the drugs into the country. But we do know that somehow we must rid ourselves of it. We didn't create mass employment or mass poverty, but somehow we must fight it. And crime, which ole Barros rightly notes to be an expression of the dysfunction bred by oppression, is a problem which MOST Black people recognize and try to combat in a number of ways--and often find themselves in conflict with the cops in doing so. Prior to the mass demonstrations in reply to cops killing of Freddy Gray, there were three hundred black men forming themselves into patrols to combat hoodlumism in the hood. Many of those SAME men are also involved in mass protests against fascistic police terrorism. As one brother (former resident of Lafayette projects) said to me yesterday at our mass demonstratin against fascist cop terror, "It's all the SAME struggle, man. The drugs, the cops, the crime--it's all the same thing, the same oppression we have to fight. You from this area, and you know what I mean." Indeed, I do understand....much better than freddy I assure you.